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Amy_M

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Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:04 am

Hi Everyone,

I am hoping to start my bachelor of nursing next year via Open Universities (distance education).

Has anyone on here completed this course by this method?

If so, my question is what is the hardest part (time/motivation/not having a study group).

Also, what subject did you find hardest to complete by distant education?

I’ve chosen this method because I am working full-time (just like everyone else!).

I’m curious to hear others opinions as I have never done distant/online education before.

Thanks,

Amy.

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Apr 27, 2012, 11:48 am

Hi Amy,

Distance learning is excellent but I have my doubts how effective this would be. I know CDU has distance learning and is a tested method. However the current PROBLEM, if one may call it, is that many Universities including the likes of ACU are having difficulty placing their students on clinical pracs. Everyone knows that if you can't gain clinical placement, you cannot qualify.

Doing a full time job will at best allow you to do your nursing degree as a part time. Distance learning means you will lack several impetus...group study to motivate and discuss. Not to say you can't do it but it can be pretty demanding. Wishing you all the best

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:49 pm

Hi Schizo,

Thanks for your response.

Interesting to hear about the placements.

I'm planning on completing this course through University South Australia via Open University's.

Apparently, if I can't obtain placement in Melbourne (where I live) I will have to travel to SA regularly and complete placements wherever SA University tell me . . will end up costing a fair bit!

Where abouts did you complete your bachelor degree? What in your opinion was the hardest subject/module you completed?

I'm trying to get a feel of what to expect :)  Were you working while undergoing the course?

Amy.

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Apr 27, 2012, 04:40 pm

Hi Amy,

I'm studying nursing externally through CDU.  I'm in Melbourne.  So far it's pretty good.  I've met others in Melbourne studying through CDU as well and they've been able to get placement here.  Another uni which offers nursing externally is CQU.  They have a fairly good reputation for distance as well. 

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Apr 28, 2012, 07:37 am

Hi Amy, I know for a fact that Melbourne is still pretty good for finding work as a nurse. As mentioned CDU is a good option, I would not go for CQU, I have colleagues with them and considering feedback I believe CDU is a better option. Just be certain that you have time to do your clinical placements. Some unis have blocks that increases as you progress to final year. i.e. they may start with 2 week block of clinical pracs and slowly build up to as much as an 8 week block.

I don;t think there's one subject to worry about as each Uni will have some differing subjects. Again it all depends on the strengths, if you are good in  Pharmacology for example, you will naturally excel. I do not doubt that you will enjoy your studies. Nursing is a rewarding career, I gave up  my successful career as an accountant/general manager to be a nurse. No regrets.

I did my degree in Queensland - QUT. Yes, I was working and looking after a family of 4 kids. I had an advantage, I run my own business and its just 20 meters outside my house...lol. No travel time and I am my own boss. I put in about 20-25 hours a week in my business which is great because my customers work with me by appointment only. So I had loads of flexibility.

I miss out 70% of lectures and tutes...can't remember having walked in pharmacology, mental health and many others....though full time, I did it "externally"....lol. One thing I find useful for mature age students is to form a group of like minded people to work with. Bouncing ideas and sharing resources makes it easier to sail through. Good luck and wishing you a pleasant journey in your studies. :) 

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Apr 30, 2012, 10:28 am

Hi Summerly,

Thanks for the reply, it's good to hear that you've been able to get placements here.

Will definitely have a browse through the CDU and CQU website.

Are you working whilst completing this course? Are you commited to part-time or full-time study?

For the first 4 months of the degree I'll be working full time and possibly completing the course full-time (out of work hours).

Just wondering if your're balancing your degree with other commitments?

Amy.

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Apr 30, 2012, 10:40 am

Hi Schizo,

Thanks for your response :)

Wow very interesting to hear about CQU, it's great to hear the feedback from people who are actually completing the course through them. It really makes a difference as I can imagine, you would need as much support as you can get when completing this degree online.

I will most definitely have time for placements, from what I understand it's only 2 weeks in the first year and builds up from there . . as well as a few workshops on campus. Thats something I'm really looking forward to, what are your views on the prac placements you experienced? 

Wow how did you balance all of your commitments and complete the course, thats amazing! Haha I wish I worked 20metres from my house!

Definitely agree, I look forward to interacting with students in the same boat as me when the course commences, for me I know that would be great support and help.

Amy.

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Apr 30, 2012, 02:09 pm

Hi Amy,

I attend CQU nursing via distance. I have no complaints about the course delivery or content.

If you need any information feel free to ask.

regards,

Dave

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May 01, 2012, 05:27 am

CDU has a more established distance learning program Australia wide and I noticed that they have no problems arranging placements for their students. CQU is very well represented mainly in Queensland but not in Victoria. The ability to secure clinical placements has a lot to do with whether Universities are prepared to pay big $$$ to hospitals to take in students. Currently there are about 60 ACU senior nursing students in Brisbane have not found placements. Some have managed to secure placements outside brisbane on their own but it means that they have to fork out lots of $$$ for travel and accommodation.

Where one does clinical placement is important (IMHO). The larger metropolitan hospitals are more structured, better equipped and provide treatment for a wider scope of conditions on site than regional/rural hospitals. This translates to increased learning opportunities (Rural or regional hospitals tend to ship out those they cannot manage to metropolitan hospitals)

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May 01, 2012, 08:22 am

Hello Amy,

I am in the first year at Uni SA distance ed and live in Melbourne.   I haven't had much experience yet but I have found that it is very time consuming and you have to keep your focus.   I've never found it so enjoyable to find some housework to do...   The line between home and school can sometimes get blurred.

Anyway we are moving along with a very high workload.   In the beginning my head was just spinning but I am starting to gauge how much I need to commit to each course.

The placements with Uni SA are 2, 4 and 8 weeks respectively.   The students are advised that they are not to count on placements in their own States.  It is just fortunate if you get to work your placement at home.

I was talking to another student from Victoria who is in her 3rd year and she had been confirmed for her placement in Victoria and then two weeks ago they changed it to commence in SA.

Jess is also on this forum (see JW86? I think is her logon) Jess might be able to shed some m ore light on the placement situation with Uni SA.

The most difficult part about distance ed so far I would say is that you can't get immediate answers to questions.   You have to post and wait.   Sometimes with no response.   Then you can email.   Then you can phone.   By then you've forgotten you asked the question in the first place and have moved on.

Another thing is you just apply through OUA then you become a student of Uni SA.   So they dictate all the criterion of the study not OUA.

Hope this helps a bit.

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May 01, 2012, 08:41 am

Thanks Dave & Schizo :)

Shellz, this is more what I was thinking to do (going through Uni SA via OUA)!

Are you completing the course in full-time study mode or part-time?

How many hours of textbook/online study do put aside a week? Are you working also?

Reason I ask, for the first 4 months of the course (next year) I will be working full-time and just trying too see if I could juggle full-time study also as I really don't want to complete the course over 5-6 years.

I wonder if there's an option to start on a part-time basis then move to full-time study midyear hrmmmm... 

What have they got you studying at this point .  . A&P? Eitherway I'm sure it will be alot of fun!

Amy.

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May 19, 2012, 01:01 pm

Hi Amy,

Sorry for the late reply.  have struck a couple of times that I couldn't log in for some reason.  In response to your questions:

Are you completing the course in full-time study mode or part-time?  I started off full time and have elected to complete the 2nd half of the year part time.   I just found that straight off the cuff for me that full time was a bit too much.   (I  do like my life!)   I haven't studied for years and I found that my reading and studying skills needed to catch up to the pace.

How many hours of textbook/online study do put aside a week? Are you working also?

At the full time study load I was putting in about 35hrs per week total.   Now I have dropped to 3/4 work load and I have found that I could still put in that amount of study but I can opt to wind it back and join the real world.   I have suffered some eye strain and as I said I find housework very much more enjoyable at the moment and have to focus to prevent and avoidance of study.

Reason I ask, for the first 4 months of the course (next year) I will be working full-time and just trying too see if I could juggle full-time study also as I really don't want to complete the course over 5-6 years.  

I understand what you mean.   You can opt back and forward between full time and part time study.   But need to plan ahead so you know what your study period is going to have in it.   You could also pick up some subjects over summer if you opted for part time and this would help reduce the total length of the degree.

I wonder if there's an option to start on a part-time basis then move to full-time study midyear hrmmmm... 

Yes this is an option.   You choose which subjects to enrol in for each study period.

What have they got you studying at this point .  . A&P?

We are studying:

Global and National health

Anatomy and physiology (Human health)

Being a health professional.

2nd half of year:

Mental health and

Population health

Human body

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May 25, 2012, 01:24 pm

Hi Shellz,

 

Apologies for my late reponse also! Truely appreciate your feedback on distant learning :)

I've deceided to start mid next year (when I am in a position to study full-time and move my job to casual). it's great to hear that there is an option to change from full-time to part-time study.

I'm on the same boat as you, I havent studied for many years now and need to recapture those reading/studying skills. Hopefully it is something I can pickup quite fast :-?

I think thats the main thing with distant study, cant really waste time by putting off your studies, was it hard to stick to your study schedule when first starting off? Was it very overwhelming?

Thanks for giving me an idea of what to expect with this course too!

Amy.

 

 

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May 31, 2012, 08:37 am

Hi Amy,

Glad I could help. If you have had a study history then I think you will be able to pick it up quickly and move through it.   I think part time work is a good option if you can take it.   I really take my hat off to people who work full time and study full time. They mustn't sleep!

Yes I must admit I was overwhelmed to begin with and had the occasion of descending into tears and then realised that a glass of wine did wonders - just medicinal - or is that self medicating???  :-? Ha! Good luck with your studies.

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Jul 04, 2012, 12:11 pm

Hi Amy,

I am too considering it. Are you in the health field. I am not and am unsure whether I can do it or not !! I am in melbourne too and unsure whether distant education is the way to go but it doesnt seem like theres much choice if you want to continue working full time.

Daniela

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Jul 09, 2012, 08:10 pm

I had heard that UniSA lack on the placement side of things, but 14 weeks really is hardly anything. Especially in comparison to other unis such as CDU (17 weeks), CSU (26 weeks) or UNE (32 weeks).

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Aug 23, 2012, 03:29 pm

APOLOGIES for my extremely delayed response! We all know how it is with work and other commitments!

Hi Daniela, I'm not actually working in the health field at the moment but I know nursing is the career for me :) I imagine it to be quite hard to keep up with studies when working full-time.

I only recently discovered how there are not enough hours in the day for work and study! I am currently completing 4 university subjects through OUA in order to be accepted into my nursing degree (that is my pathway as I did not complete year 12). I am finding the juggle with study and full time work to be quite challenging, especially coming up to exam time!

I hope I am not scaring you off!! However I believe the external degree would be more manageable if you were working part-time. Do you think that may be an option for you? This is now something I am considering.

Hi Angela, Yess Ive heard the same thing too with placements! Although SA Uni has shorter placements, I am hearing great things about CDU which is where I would apply. Are you also thinking to commence a degree?

Amy

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Oct 24, 2012, 11:58 am Last edited Oct 24, 2012, 11:58 am update #1

Hi Everyone

Just thought I would throw my 2c worth in. I am also studying externally through UNISA but am based in Adelaide. Shellz is right, you are expected to come to Adelaide for ALL clinical workshops, this year we had 3, the first one was 2 days and the other two were 3 days long, if you do not attend you do not pass the course.

The university are very strict with placement, and to be honest, they are not the greatest at organising them! In saying this though, they claim that it is not up to them to find places for students, it is up to the clinical placement board who arrange placements for ALL SA nursing students at all SA university's. To be honest, I think there are far too many students enrolled in the program, we had a placement this year (apparently UNISA did not have placement in first year prior to 2012), we were due to start placement in June but by May, we still had not heard anything at all about where we were going. Turns out, they only had about 10 venues available for over 200 students, so they sent exemption forms to all students in the hope that most students would be eligible for exemption if they already worked in a health related industry. This cut the numbers down considerably but the placement still got cut short from two weeks to one week :-?

We have also just recently been informed that all UNISA students must do atleast one rural placement, clearly they do not have enough metropolitan venues for all students to attend (I believe there are about 500 students enrolled in first year alone)! As far as placements are concerned there is (meant to be) 2 weeks in first year, 2 x 4 week blocks in second year and 2 x 8 week blocks in third year - so 26 weeks all up. There is every chance that you will be expected to come to SA for placement too at your own expense, the uni won't care if you work, have kids or don't drive, you're expected to do the placement they give you or miss out.

Sorry to make it sound so harsh, there are good aspects to it too but it's certainly not as perfect as you would think. Also, if you do apply through OUA, you will still be studying the exact same course that UNISA offers, infact, OUA have nothing at all to do with the program, they just get you in (from what I heard they had 50 places to hand out last year and UNISA had the other 450).

Anyway, I hope this answers some of your questions and gives you something to think about, particularly the uni that you decide to apply to :-)

modified: Wednesday 24 October 2012 12:01:28 pm - mammalicious

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Mar 20, 2018, 11:48 am

hey guys, it was worth reading the discussion but i am planning to apply now, so if anyone can provide review about CQU & CDU. 

thanks in  advance.

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