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pippa

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Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:08 pm

Please does anyone know if one can do a post enrollment course for ENs in QLD. I really dont want to do a another EN course at Tafe to become an EEN. I have just moved from Perth WA where I was working as an EN in aged care and the RNS gave us alot of responsibilty. I now want to work in Qlds but have since found out that Nursing homes dont often take ENS here.

virgomum

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Sep 20, 2008, 04:07 pm

Hi Pippa

I'm moving to QLD(Brisbane North) in January...

I'm an EN here in NSW but have not got my Medication Endorsedment..and looks like its highly unlikely I'll be able to do it before I move as the course in not being run here ATM. Have been told by the QNC that after this year they will NOT be running the Endorsement course in QLD any more... so the ONLY option for Endorsment is to then to the 18 month course to become an EN (again) .... (not something I can afford )

I have been keeping an eye out for what jobs are available and I think 99.9% of them want Endorsed EN's...which is making me very worried about my job prospects..Hopefully I'll be able to find somewhere that will take me on (20+ yrs experience should count for something!!)

Hopefully some of the QLD EN's will see this topic and can post back with some advice/help/suggestions :)

Odelia

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Oct 26, 2008, 10:02 am

I am a QLD EN, have been enrolled since 1975, I was overseas when the short endorsement came in, but arrived home in Feb 2008 to find the endorsement course was no longer offered, I have been told to wait until next year when the EN endorsement course is being reviewed and may be re-introduced, in the mean time the only option is to do Diploma of Nursing, which most of us who have been ENs for a while do not want to do. I am also finding that the role of the EN not endorsed is being forgotten, I am an agency nurse and constantly get asked, what can you do? or as a third person get spoken about as in OH! she's not an EEN, (the invisible syndrome). As to employment, not a lot of places want unendorsed ENs, my agency are not employing unendorsed ENs any more, the ENs they have on are being kept, but the jobs are not as forthcoming.

traceyj1370

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Jan 12, 2009, 06:35 pm

Hi eveyone, I am also an EN on the Gold Coast, I would love to do my endorsement, but like some of you i can not afford to do the whole thing over again. I have also had trouble finding other work outside of my permanent hospital work because I don't have the endorement. The hospital I work for put some EN's through the course last year for free, but they only took a handful and I missed out! Not happy at all! Would love to know if the short course will come back to QLD TAFE's.

Lost

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Jan 14, 2009, 03:01 pm

Hey all, I have been looking into the endorsment course as well. I came from a Paramedical background from the Military and overseas, for some reasonn its not recognised here in QLD??

I have been told that there is an endorsment course offered through a Tafe in SA that can be done by 'distant education', it is supposidly self paced learning as well. Do any of you know of this course? Details?

I would also like to know exactly what the EEN course gives you, is it a certificate III or better? Not even that? I confess I am a bebe in the woods in nursing even know I have been enrolled for more than 10 years I only recently began working in the capacity.

Any help and guidance much appreciated.

traceyj1370

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Jan 15, 2009, 11:35 am

Hi Lost, an EEN can do most aspects of patient care, much better than cert III. I'm an EN on a very busy surgical ward on the Gold Coast, and I get to do most things for my pts except their medications. An EEN can do most of the cares as well as the medications, so it is worth doing it.

pandorah

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Mar 16, 2009, 03:58 pm

I am an Div 2 nurse who has just moved to Qld. I dont have medication endorsement and I felt shocked and angered that they dont have medication administration short courses for EN nurses anymore. The local hospital dosnt want to know me, and all the advertised jobs want EEN.

I feel Im in no mans land and am quite depressed by it. I have been working in pathology for years and wanted to keep my nursing licence, so I was excited to find the ''rethink nursing'' website. I sounded suitable for a refresher course, and I was feeling very positive. The refresher coordinator passed my approved aplication to the local hopital and told me someone from there would be in contact with me. Weeks went by without me hearing anything and I decided to go down there. I bought a new shirt and made sure I looked top notch. I found the person that was named as the hospital contact and introduced myself. She was HORRIBLE. She basicly said there was no point letting me do a refresher as there was no work at the end of it for me as they already had 5/6 Ens on casual already (I thought most hospitals have nurses bank?) and that I had no recent experience (I thought thats why I was doing the refresher?) she made me feel like a piece of crap.Lots more got said that all had the same overture... you are unwanted as a nurse.The whole conversation was conducted in the hallway in front of other staff and she didnt invite me to her office or anything. I have to stop writing as Im starting to cry all over again. x

Molly

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Mar 16, 2009, 10:43 pm

EEN's assist RN's with DD now. So you could see how important it is to be EEN. I done mine EEN course in SA TAFE open learning twice (medication) because the first time when I done the EEN there was no DD that time. The next year we EEN could do DD and that how I ended up doing the course twice by updated so I could do the DD's. I now have no regret doing it twice.

traceyj1370

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Mar 17, 2009, 05:43 pm

Pandorah keep trying! I'm sorry you have had a bad experience here on the Gold Coast. It is hard to get work if you don't have your endorsement, I know because I've been looking for quite some time! I would suggest that if your circumstances allow it you should go to TAFE and do the full EEn course. I know it is hard when you are already an En, but if you need to do the refresher and then the endorsement course, you would probably be better off doing the full thing from sctach. You would probably get credits because you are already a nurse. If I could afford to I would do the same thing. You really do need to have the endorsement course to get anywhere now.

Best of luck with everything, hope it works out for you.

Molly

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Mar 18, 2009, 10:06 pm

Hello Pandorah ! May I ask are you in Brisbane? I was thinking. PCA's assist with medications that is Webster packed and even from boxes. I do not see you should have a problem finding work. If PCA could assist with medication so why you are having problems? You do not have to go looking for work in the hospital where you are not wanted. Did you try looking for work in Aged Care? In Aged Care you may have a better chance. Were I work PCA assist with medications, do the BP,P, T, but not wound care management. I hope this will help you and hope to hear from you with a reply what do you think?

oxygenta

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Mar 21, 2009, 02:37 pm

TO ALL EN'S. I am an EEn here in Qld trained in NT 2003 wich included endorsement, For ens unendorsed but with cert IV or TAFE trained you can complete an acredeted endorsement programme interstate, such as aStatement of attainment in Medication administration from NSW Tafe or colledge of nursing this has to be auknowledged by other Australian state Rego boards such as QNC.
Whilst I have herd that QLD TAFE no longer perform post enrollment endorsement corses, other states do and most are via distance mode with maybe a brief residential prac. The QNC CANNOT DECLINE APPLICATION FOR ENDORSEMENT BASED ON GROUNDS OF NOT BEING A QLD TAUGHT COURSE!!!
All new Undergrad En couses are based now on a Nationally based programe that is the safe framework Aus Wide
As long asthe endorsement course is AQF certified, This applies to all interstate tafe couses and most private training colledges.You may have to firstly obtain registration in those states first as an EN then upgrade that to EEN on completion through that same registration board. then you can apply for QLD enrollment with endorsement on the basis of mutual regognition.So before leaving NSW or Vic or other states check first on what is avail to obtain endorsement there first of via distance ed.
check here:
http://www.nursing.edu.au/Online_Course/ShowSubjectProfile.aspx?CourseID=519&CategoryID=18

sure beats having to completely re train again. hope this helps

pandorah

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Mar 25, 2009, 01:36 pm

Thankyou all so much for your encouraging words and advice!! I am feeling a little better and more positive about things now. Im particulary keen on the interstate med endorsement option.Im in central Qld so distance ed sounds enticing!!

pandorah

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Mar 25, 2009, 01:42 pm

ps. Molly, thankyou for your advice too, I did talk to the local aged care unit and they were lovely and normal as apposed to the eliteist hospital attitude I experienced. I will take your advice I think!

Molly

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Mar 25, 2009, 07:01 pm

pandorah ! You are very welcome. I am very delighted that you will be more happier in Aged Care Unit or Nursing Home, please let know how you are getting on there! It would be interesting have Aged Care will treat you.

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