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*Jess*

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Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:08 pm

Hi

Sorry posted this in the other forum too...but thought it would be better off in here ......

Was wondering if anyone has done or is thinking about doing this course? What is it like...can you choose where you do your clinical placements or do they just send you somewhere?

I've been thinking about it for sometime...I would do it Box Hill Tafe Melb, I would have preferred swinburne but they don't do it there anymore.

Iam juggling family life so will be doing it part-time but its just that initial step of applying is scaring the crap out of me .... oh and having to do the vetassess test thing..so scared I'm going to fail (I'm hopeless at maths :( ). I haven't studied anything for a long time.

I did start Bachelor of Nursing and completed 1st year about 10 years ago, so I know its something that I can do and want to do.Although I was thinking about doing the Cert III in Aged Care just to get me started but not sure whether that is just a waste of time...when I'm pretty sure this course is what I want to do... (I've been talking and thinking about it for the past 3 years!!!!

Any words of wisdom or advice?

emily kate

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Aug 14, 2008, 06:25 am

I did my cert IV two years ago, part time, two days a week. It wasn't easy (two kids under 2.5 when I started) but i got through it, had a good support base of family which helped. I think anything's achievable if you have the drive and support to do it. There's really no harm in giving it a go, sit the test and see how it goes. I'd be more inclined to do the cert IV as opposed to Aged Care as you'll get credit for the cert IV when you go on to do your Bachelor (see, I'm even writing as though you're going to do it!).

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Aug 18, 2008, 03:12 pm

Hi Jess,

I am currently studying Cert IV in Nursing at Box Hill Institute (TAFE) part time. I'm really enjoying it but wishing I was able to complete if Full Time as I feel it is taking forever!

We do not get any choice of placements. They try to place you close to where to live (especially if you rely on public transport to get there), but due to a huge shortage of placements, some students have had to travel really far, some even choosing to get accomodation near their placement for the weeks they are there (there are some "rural" placements). There are not as many problems obtaining Aged Care placements since there are so many facilities (whether they are suitable or not is another matter...), but getting Acute Care placements has been notoriously difficult. There is a full time group of students currently doing 6 weeks of placements back to back in order to finish the course ontime. Unfortunately, that's pretty indicative of the type of organisational prowess of the school, but of course placements are beyond their control as well.

We have had issues with changing of teachers, not enough rooms, grouping of 2 groups together in one room to save on teachers and venues (so there are over 60 of us in one "class"), but some issues are being slowly fixed.

Having said all that (which sounds really negative!!), the teachers work hard with what they get given, and they are really supportive. The school is investing alot into the nursing course, so they updated our course to include all sorts of things like Medications and possibly Canulation. They are also building new nursing Labs, including a Simulation Lab with some pretty flash equipment.

I would still encourage you to apply - most of the issues I've outlined will probably be sorted by next intake as alot of the problems are due to the new course outline and length.

With the entrance test, they are now doing interviews as well. To be honest, there were 400-500 applicants doing the test (no one knows the exact number but I was applicant number 437!!), and 60 were accepted Part Time, and around 100 Full time. The majority of students in the Part Time stream are Mature Age students (many in their 40s), lots with families, so lots of us are balancing other things with study.

The test is not too difficult, but the questions get harder as you go along. No one I spoke to managed to finish them in the time provided, but that's okay, they're just looking at how many you can do. I hadn't brushed up on anything and was fine, as long as your basic maths is okay, you should be fine. You have paper to do the working out on. The reasoning test is fairly standard (what comes next in the pattern, etc), and the English test is fine for anyone whose first language is English (plenty of overseas students found it fine too). You can buy a practice test I believe, to give you an idea of the questions.

I was in almost the exact same position as yourself, and decided to not to do Cert III in Aged Care as I felt I would end up doing Nursing anyway. There are a few people with the Cert III in our course, but this course goes into far more than what they learned in the Cert III as it does not only apply to Aged Care.

Wow, this is a long post so I'd better end it here!

Hope some of that was helpful, and not too negative! I'm really happy that I'm doing the course and am looking forward to our first placement in October.

Mara (SilverLining).

deancey

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Aug 19, 2008, 12:57 pm

I am currently applying for this course. I am looking at completing it a VU part time.

I am mother of 2 boys ( 2.5 and 3 months old).

I am sure it will be juggling act with kids/work and school however if you want something badly enough you can get there.

Good luck

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Oct 03, 2008, 08:46 pm

Hey there!

Like Deancy (hi trace!) I am applying too, i do my vetassess test on the 16th,

I am reqally hoping to get in and that the days will work around my 2 munchkins and work!

Who needs to sleep though right???

deancey

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Oct 04, 2008, 03:37 pm

LOL Hi CIndyB

Yeah I have no doubts the workload will be full on which is why I think part time is a good option.

The vetassess test wasnt as hard as I imagined however it did get the brain working. Just remember to read the questions carefully as some of them are tricky. Its multiple choice so that helps also.

Good luck

lenga

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Oct 07, 2008, 05:34 pm

Hi all,

I just moved to Sydney and intend to take a Certificate IV in nursing. I don't know much about the education system in Australia. Please give me your advice.

I graduated from the Uni under bachelor of art in Vietnam and I am nearby 35 (I have 12 year experience in administration). Could you help me:

1/ In NSW, which Tafe or University open the course for Certificate IV in nursing? (I already contact with Tafe in Ultimo and Randwick but the course are not open in the next year, they have only a aged care course).

2/ Do I need to take an assessment ?

Any tips are appreciated.

Thanks.

Nga

deancey

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Oct 07, 2008, 08:39 pm

lenga. I would so a search on tafes in NSW and they should give you a list of their courses for 2009. I beleive you must sit the vetassess test in order to be accepted to the cert IV in nursing, this test is set by the nurses board.

Good luck with finding course etc.

cindyb

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Nov 15, 2008, 09:39 pm

OMG Tracey - I have not even looked at this site since my last post and here you are again!

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