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Karina
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:03 pm
Hi there, I am wanting to study nursing next year. I am thinkng of going to uni and doing the Bachelor Nursing degree... My questions is: Can you actually work casually or part time (paid) in some sort of nursing job whilst you are completing the degree, or must you wait until you have finished so you can register with the nurses board? I dont have the Cert IV or III or any other qualification in Nursing but I am hoping i will be able to have paid work while doing th degree. Is it do-able, does anyone know?
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PrincessDemonik
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Mar 29, 2007, 08:55 pm
I'd love to give you some advise Karina. What state do you live in? Monika
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Karina
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Mar 30, 2007, 02:28 pm
Hi Monika, thanks for you help. I am in NSW.
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PrincessDemonik
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Mar 31, 2007, 04:35 pm
Easier for me to answer now I know we share the same state Karina! You certainly can work as a nurse whilst studying. In the first year, you can work in aged care as an AIN/PCA/CSE. It is easier to get flexible shifts in aged care to work with your university. Given you are not currently enrolled in a nursing program, it might be a good idea for you to go around to aged care facilities now and ask for work, clearly stating you intend to enroll into university for next year.
Another option open to you is enrolling into an Enrolled Nurse program. Generally, you have to apply direct to a hospital. With this option, you can pretty much immediately begin your training (it incorporates fulltime work and concurrent study). After completing the course, you can apply to university and finish a Bachelor of Nursing within 2 years (full time) whilst working as a fully qualified endorsed EN.
If this doesn't appeal to you, you can work as an undergraduate nurse through most metro hospitals from your second year of nursing at uni. This allows you to experience an acute setting whilst working towards registration, and can greatly benefit you in terms of career pathways that interest you, and getting employment in an area you like as you've already got some work experience in it!
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Karina
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Mar 31, 2007, 04:48 pm
Excellent. Thanks for your help! I am really looking forward to this. I am hoping to apply for the Enrolled Nursing thing, now that I have actually looked into it a bit more. I think they have three intakes a year so I am hoping to apply for the next one, which seems ot be starting in October. If I dont get into that, I will be applying for Uni to begin nursing degree next year. I also saw "nursing work experience" for school students advertised when I was hospital recently, so maybe they will allow me to take part in that, even though I am definately not a school student...nor do I even know what they would allow me to do if I did take part in that. I will be ringing them up and asking about the Enrolled Nursing course some time soon. I hope I can get in. I didnt do well at all in my HSC so I hope they wont look too closely at that! oooh i'm so excited! (sorry, i am such a dork!)
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Karina
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Mar 31, 2007, 04:50 pm
Also, what does CSE stand for? I know AIN and PCA, but I havent seen CSE before...
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PrincessDemonik
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Mar 31, 2007, 04:53 pm
A CSE is a Care Support Employee. Most frequently they work in Hostels (low care residential aged care). A number of large aged care providers have changed their PCAs to CSEs, it is a growing trend. The CSE is pretty much a PCA except they can administer medications once competency trained. Also, the pay is slighter higher than for a PCA.
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PrincessDemonik
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Mar 31, 2007, 04:55 pm
I'm glad to hear you've decided on the EN pathway.
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nursemj
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Mar 31, 2007, 05:41 pm
Can anyone answer the same question but for working in hospitals in Victoria? I'm currently studying a bach. nursing and didn't know you could get hospital work before you finished the degree. Any info would be appreciated, thanks
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PrincessDemonik
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Apr 03, 2007, 04:34 pm
Hi nursemj I did a quick search for nursing jobs on the health victoria site, and I didn't see any undergraduate nurse positions. Health is a state government run thing, and they might not have yet introduced the concept, which is a pity. Monika
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lokisare
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Sep 09, 2007, 03:03 pm
Hey Nursemj, After your second year of the 3-year degree you can apply to be a div 2 nurse while completing your final year. Check out the NBV site and also ask your Uni about it. Apart from that I think you would be able to get PCA work privately but not in the hospital setting.
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Rotator Cuff
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Sep 10, 2007, 10:16 am
Hi guys and girls, RC the only thing I can say is that, if you decide to do work in Aged Care setting, is that it gives you good work experience and your basic nursing skills such as ie Showering, personal care, toileting etc etc. This may sound boring or not very exciting, but like I said it is basic nursing skills, and very important for all patients/residents/clients. I sometimes work with student RN's who sort of like cringe at the thought of doing this, and I just think, "Get with it people, this is what nursing is all about" These are mainly the ones who have just finished high school and gone straight into nursing degree. Bless them, but they got to learn. RC
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feistylady
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Sep 11, 2007, 12:30 pm
Hello my name is Michelle,I am a PCA in a Aged Care Facility in country SA, I found the quote in a previous post here that PCAs with medication credentialling get paid more .This does not apply where I work although we have queried this.We have only last week fought and won to be paid on the correct increment although some still feel they are not. Sorry to detract from the original posted question
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KingAaron
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Sep 19, 2007, 10:23 pm
Hey Got my entry interview for EN tommorrow b4 work. !!!!! Figured, time to get off my butt and finish it off. Anyone else starting their Diploma in the next few weeks. Ill commence classes October 15th. Aaron
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Rotator Cuff
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Sep 21, 2007, 01:14 pm
Hi there guys and girls, First day of my dip of nursing class yesterday. Text Books text books text books and more text books, workbooks and more workbooks, a stethoscope and a spygh???????????? how ever the hell you spell it (got to learn how to say it correctly let alone spell the dam word) I already worried about those assignments, but will be shown all there is to know by teacher, cause we are all MATURE AGE STUDENTS. Ten of us actually 3 males and 7 females plus 3 more to attend yet. Teacher was quite impressed with our knowledge of medical terminology, once we got on a roll couldn't stop, what a hoot. She wont bore us with the things that we do day in and day out like showering toilet etc etc. all in all I know it is going to be hard work, but also fun and quite a learning experience. To top of my day, I got a bit lost on the way home, pull over (once the big big trucks passed me) and get out that dam refedex. I not very good with my lefts and rights. Arrived home in one piece. PS Have children and bros and sis to help me with assisgnments, oh and you guys and girls too. Thanks RC.
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Darren
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Sep 21, 2007, 02:41 pm
Well done, good luck with it all. Hopefully you enjoy it start to finish, but push through the tough bits and you will reap all the rewards :)
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morgainecrocker
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Apr 17, 2008, 07:06 pm
is this the same in queensland?
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