KKat
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Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 pm
Hi everyone out there i guess... Just received a letter today sayin i missed out on gettin any of my preferences for my new graduate program and i am just a mixed bag of emotions! i feel like i worked so hard for what? And the thing is dont the hospitals need more nurses? Anyway i just am really lost at the moment and dont know what to expect or what to do next? And whats worst is that ive got my final exams starting tomorrow! Can anyone suggest what i should do next? besides passing my exams which fingers crossed i will do! Cheers Kat
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earth.angel67
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Nov 13, 2008, 08:38 pm
Hi KKat, I also got a letter on Monday...the day before my exams started...to say that I was unsuccesful in any of my hospital preferences. I think that I was unlucky with my preferences....I listed RHW Newborn care as first..and then found out at interview there were only 4 places available...Sydney Children's were next on my list and I was unaware that they only take those who list them as first preference..So I guess by the time I moved down the list there were no places available. I found the whole interview process a joke. They do not take into consideration academic or clinical performance....as a student with a distinction average I am insulted that others who just cruise by were able to secure places for next year. Apparently there are second round offers in December.....chin up there are bigger and better things awaiting us out there!!!!! I also find it amazing that there is a shortage of nurses yet no places for new grads to find their feet...there are plenty of jobs out there but a selection criteria is experience. Can anyone explain how we gain this experience when we can't get a job?????
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Liz
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Nov 22, 2008, 09:15 pm
thats no good guys. Maybe people will decline their offers later on. Most pple find it really hard to get a grad job in a kids hospital, coz everyone wants to do it. You can still do nursing wtihout a grad program. If you were in Qld, the mater and royal brisbane have transition programs for everyone no matter how experience etc they are. In your cases, if you dont get a grad program, DO NOT go private! Public hospitals tend to give staff a LOT more education than private hospitals
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teej
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Nov 27, 2008, 08:13 pm
Hey there, earth.angel67 your story is pretty much the same as mine! I only applied for NSW and with little information completed the application. My first preference was also RHW newborn care and i flew to NSW to interview for this. I received an unsuccessful letter, which i was kind of expecting once I too discovered it was only 4 positions available, which said i was on an 'eligibility list'. did yours say this, talk about confusing? anyways in my interview i asked how the whole preference system worked as nobody had given me any info. i was told that if unsuccessful your info is passed to your 2nd, 3rd, etc preferences. now i assumed the reason for the almost 2 month wait from the interview to the posting of letters was because your information was being assessed by other preferences. so while i wasn't expecting an offer for RHW i was kind of expecting something from one of my other preferences. they would have known where those jobs were going after a week..why make us wait so long...isn't this meant to be the 'real world'. i too found the fact that academic and clinical performance is not taken into account to be a joke. I have a HD average, completed Acute Care Nursing with an overall score of 99 and yet while those with scores of 51 get job offers i'm left with no information and no clue what to do next. surely our performance over 3 years should stand for something, yet they didnt want to know about it?! The lack of infomation was also frustrating, i had no clue what an 'eligibility list' was and what to expect next. I emailed everyone i could and either got vague replies or nothing. I finally got one reply from the RHW that explained that more offers will be made from 1st December - if people decline positions within my preferences and I'm positioned well enough on the 'eligibility list'. I just really wish someone had explained this whole process to begin with as if i had known all of this i wouldn't have gone for such a competitive and specialised position and switched my preferences around. Anyways, good luck with further offers :)
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utssydnurse
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Dec 04, 2008, 08:36 pm
Hi guys, Perhaps this is something you should have researched your self before hand. I called up every hospital i had inlisted into my preferences. This included RHW Newborn care which was going to be my first preference. I was told there would only be 2-4 positions available, so i made the decision to change my preferences to a hospital where my chances of getting in were greater. At this point you have to start thinking about how/what you can do to make sure you got into the program. You are adult professionals and as registered nurses should be proactive in doing such things for your self. In saying this, not all is lost. You will have your resgistration which is what is most important. You can apply to other hospitals directly and look for mentors and seek support where and when you need it. (clinical nurse educator, NUM, other RNs etc). You will be fine. Heads up.
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ed-grad
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Dec 10, 2008, 12:34 pm
Hey guys, not sure how they conduct things in NSW, but in QLD it was made pretty clear to everyone that paediatrics is basically the most competitive field to get into, either as a grad or an experienced RN. As for these other people that cruise by with 51%, look at where they got their grad programs. Probably areas that have a high demand for grads. I did a little better than 51%, but certainly not anything like the scores you guys say you got, however I did a fair bit of aged care work, did an elective subject relevant to the field that I applied for and did my final prac where I wanted to work, which I chose because I knew it wouldn't be ultra competitive like other hospitals in my area, and made sure I made a good impression. This is how people with inferior marks than yours get grad positions because in truth it isn't all about academic marks in 'the real world.'
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earth.angel67
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Jan 05, 2009, 12:45 am
Hi eveyone, Unlike TeeJ i was not put on any eligibility listing so missed out on new grad all together. Fortunately for me I did apply for numerous RN/student midwife positions that do take into consideration your performance on clinicals and also academic marks. I was successful in obtaining two positions in different area health services. Considering I was competing for these few places with other new grads and RNs I find it hard to believe that I couldn't get a new grad placement (not that I would've taken it over the midi position). I have worked for the department of education for numerous years and have been interviewed by panels before so therefore didn't really think about finding out about the number of places on offer. I was told at my uni (Syd) that we would all get positions so I assumed that they knew what they were talking about and that there were plenty of places to go around....wrong!!!! As far as researching my preferences I know of other students in new grad programs in hospitals in sydney who are extremely unhappy with their rotations and level of mentoring.....I didn't want to put a hospital down that I didn't want to work at for the sake of getting a new grad placement.... It was also very frustrating to see other students get new grad places after they had been failed off clinical placement and had trouble passing CPAs..... As a naturopath that has specialised in Natural Fertility Management and Early childhood therapies I knew the area I wanted to work in....unfortunately they are the areas with limited places..... Anyway eveything worked out in the end.....How did you go KKat and TeeJ
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casserooni
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Feb 21, 2009, 10:45 pm
This happened to me last year - despite high marks in both theory and clinicals (and a letter from the Dean congratulating me on my outstanding academic achievements) plus assurances from ACU that we would all be offered a place in a new grad program, I did not get one. In January I answered an advertisement for new grad program in a private hospital, was lucky enough to get it and have had a great year there. After getting this job I wrote to the NSW Minister for Health, questionning the validity of the selection process and specifically its focus on the ability of applicants to 'sell' themselves (as per NSW Health website). I also asked why, when the NSW public hospital system is so desperate for nurses, they were losing new grads to private hospitals. She did respond to my letter but clearly nothing has changed - I know how you're feeling and I send my best wishes - don't give up -
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priscillasmum
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Mar 29, 2009, 03:11 pm
Hi, Sorry to hear you didn't get into a grad program, no all is not lost. Many country hospitals are crying out for staff and offer a more personalised "grad program" than city hospitals, so that is one area to follow up. You may also need to look outside Australia to New Zealand or Singapore, be creative and think outside the square.
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