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Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:01 am

I have applied to study my Bachelor of nursing external through CDU and am trying to gather as much info as possible. Any info you guys could give me would be great..good or bad.

Thanks :-)

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Jan 09, 2009, 01:46 pm Last edited Jan 09, 2009, 01:46 pm update #1

hi keeshy,

i'm doing the ba of nursing thru CDU externally. i'm 3/4 of the way thru the first year, and so far i have found it average i guess!

i love the anatomy & phys units, but other units are a bit dreary & not something i can really sink my teeth into. i think the biggest downfall for CDU is that there are no podcasts available of the lectures, so you really miss out on how certain medical terms are pronounced. you also don't have the luxury of chatting to students/lectures in person (although there is a function on learnline where you can chat to at least the a & p lecturer with a camera thingy). the assignments aren't too hard really, i don't know what kind of expectations they really have, but i'm not an academic type and have gotten distinctions in all my subjects, (of first semester - we'll see about this one!) so i don't think the standard is unachievable.

studying externally has suited me so far because i have a baby, and i live 2hrs from the nearest uni. the other plus with CDU (and uniSA, as i see uve also applied w them) is that they offer a summer semester (which is what i'm doing now) which condenses ur studies. it means u study the whole year with no break though, so u have to weigh up if that is right for u or not.

however, i have applied to transfer to uniSA - my baby is now 12 months so personally i feel i would be okay with him being in childcare while i study on campus, and i hear that you can condense the tuts/pracs into 2 days, and the other bonus is of course, if you miss a lecture you can download the podcast.

CDU have an extra wk clinical than uniSA, CDU start the clinical one semester before uniSA ie CDU clinical starts year 2, semester one vs uniSA clinical starts year 2 semester two.

hope that helps!

modified: Friday 09 January 2009 1:49:07 pm - katc82

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Jan 10, 2009, 10:25 am

Thanks for that!! :-)

I am already a Div 2 nurse (EN) so I have some credit for the course, plus I work in a surgical ward at a hospital in the city so I think that will help for when I need help with some of the terminology and things like that. If I need help I can ask my colleagues.

Can I ask what the exams are like?

Have you done any pharmacology yet? Whats that like?

I have 2 kids and work 4 days a week and thats why im choosing this off campus mode of study, otherwise I would go on campus. I just need to try and balance everything.

I guess I just want to know if its something that I can cope with (if you have a baby and manage it then i think thats a good sign..well done to you!!) and also if the standard of education is good. Once Im qualified I will be transferring my registration over to a Vic one anyway but I want a good standard of education too.

Thanks for all of your help :-)

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Jan 10, 2009, 10:30 pm Last edited Jan 10, 2009, 10:30 pm update #1

hey keeshy,

i sometimes wonder if i should've done my ENs first before studying externally, as you get so much hands on experience, and get the opportunity to see many procedures even if you don't carry them out. i think that means that you would get credits for the first year right? i think you might have to do CUC100 (Academic literacies - learning how to structure essays/lab reports & using software, pretty boring but the essays bit was really helpful & i got a credit for the computer component) unless u can get a credit for this too??? and you might possibly have to do CUC107 which is northern perspectives (cultural studies of nthrn territory & aust).

The other first yr subjects are SBI171 & 172 Anatomy & physiology, NUR104 lifespan dvpmt, SID175 Applied Health Science which is all chem, phys, microbio in healthcare then theres NUR111 and another which i haven't done yet. so i don't think you'd have to do any of these with the credits you'd get.

No, haven't studied the pharmacology units yet, but i've heard they're very intense! good luck with them!!!

Ive only sat 2 exams so far, SBI172 and SID175 and they were no where near as hard as what i was expecting, and i was not at all prepared for them. i truly was expecting to fail, but i didn't which was lucky!!!

Are you going to do full time or part time??? Keeshy I'm as sure as i can be without really knowing you that you would most definately be able to handle it. You've done ur ENs which is not an easy thing, so you really have that advantage for studying externally :)

I am also pretty concerned about the standard of education - i so wish i could answer this one, i would love to ask one of the lecturers but i know they wouldn't tell me over email (as it would be in writing i guess), but i wonder if because its min TER mark is below avg, that the assessments aren't that hard or if they kind of make things a bit easier? I'm not saying they do, its just something i wonder! having said that, i recently did a minitest on the cardiovascular syst and it was soooo hard! Plus, i'm only in first year so they're probs easing me into this!!! i'd be wondering the same thing if i was with uniSA!!! the only thing is that i had started the degree in 2000 at UTS in sydney and in wk 3 first year we were in clinical placements and learning pathophysiology, so it felt like i was really studying nursing, not like the schedules that uniSA and CDU have which are pretty much on par with eachother.

I haven't been much help have i???!!!
hopefully there will be a 2nd yr student here who's with CDU - i think they'd be able to tell you what the uni is like a lot better. every time i've rang CDU the staff are super friendly and helpful so i think that's a bonus!

hope some of that info helps!

modified: Saturday 10 January 2009 10:34:33 pm - katc82

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Jan 10, 2009, 10:38 pm Last edited Jan 10, 2009, 10:38 pm update #1

Thanks very much :-)

Do you sit exams at another uni or do they organise it at your location?

I really have to wait and see which one, if either, i get in to and then make my decision...I was totally sold on UniSA but since hearing a bit more about CDU im more keen on that now.

As for the credits...im not sure what I get with CDU. I know I get 6 months (18 credit points) with unisa...possibly the same with CDU.

I have alot of questions for you...i just cant think of them all righ now hehe

Oh i am thinking too....with the standard of education i really think it would have to be on a decent level really..wouldnt it?.i mean after all, they are creating nurses so they have to be of a certain level. Thats what I think anyway. I do hope thats true! I know that some uni's here in melbourne have different TER scores for entry. Depends on their location really. I know the country uni's have a lower TER and i wonder if thats simply to attract a broader amount of students....compared to some of the city ones having quite a high score.

So where do you live...SA i guess if you are looking to transfer over to unisa on campus?

modified: Saturday 10 January 2009 10:41:16 pm - keeshy

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Jan 12, 2009, 02:01 am

no worries - i love to yatter on :)

yeah, depending on ur state location, you sit the invigilated exams at a uni or tafe college. all you have to do is fill in an online form and they organise it for you and closer to the date (i think about 1 month before is the final timetable) they let you know the time and day.

keeshy i would be VERY surprised if you didnt get in considering ur nursing background, though i have heard it happen, still, i'm sure i'll see a post here saying you've got in!!! Not long til u find out!!! i've been on tenderhooks waiting too!

yeah, i think that too, i mean the nursing & midwif board wouldn't accredit them if they weren't providing sufficient education. im just paranoid that i'm supposed to know all this stuff that i've read but have forgotten (memory like a sieve), and that i'm going to finish the course without a clue!!! ive decided whatever i end up doing that i'll have to do some part time AIN work to help me feel a little more confident :)

so how have u enjoyed ur ENs? i bet it was a challenge, cos u get to work in lots of different hospitals so you never really settle in completely? did u find the other nurses that u worked with initially to be friendly & helpful?

i live in sa, in maslin beach which is a bit of a hike to CBD but the bonus with uniSA for me is that i can do the next semester on campus then switch external if i find it too tricky and just do the podcast thingy.

where abouts are you located?

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Jan 12, 2009, 12:53 pm Last edited Jan 12, 2009, 12:53 pm update #1

Thanks!!!

Good that you like to natter..suits me just fine lol.

Yeah I hope you are right and that I do get in. I just dont know...i have been waiting so long. I just want to be put out of my misery haha. I finished my EN mid last year and applied pretty much as soon as I could. I got pretty good marks so sent my official transcript to SATAC. Hoping that helps!!

I found EN good (we call it Div 2 here..im in Melbourne, Vic). It was hard going at times, when you had placements and assignments and studying for exams and then had to come home and cook and clean and be a mum etc. It was well worth it though and cos I like it I put alot into it. Sounds sick I know, but once I get stuck into it, I actually quite enjoy studying. I love taking myself off the a library and immersing myself in the books. CRAZY hey!! cookooo cookooo lol

Thats one of the reasons Im not so worried about distance Ed. I mean yeah it will be hard doing it all on my own but I do enjoy the organisation and planning of the study and I will organise myself pretty well I think. Im also hoping to change wards in 3 months and would hopefully be moving to DPU. If I get that (which i pray I do cos I want to work there) it will mean much better hours for the family and for my study.

I guess the only thing I do worry about is the paperwork side of things and the organising of assignments and exams and those sorts of things. Bit scary if they go haywire. But if I get plenty of notice about these things than thats good.

Have you had to go on campus at all to do placements or labs?

Dont worry about memory retention...we all go through it. I came out of my EN with really good marks yet felt I knew absolutely nothing, sometimes I still do. Its all very new and daunting so dont worry about it. Experience in the workforce is the only thing that gets your skills up and you will be surprised how much you remember...and if you dont, its easy to ask someone. They have all been there before.

The other nurses are generally pretty supportive. I have had some issues with a few staff but thats not an issue they have with me as such...its more they have their own personal shit going on and they just become a little bitter. Generally I find ppl helpful and there is always someone to ask. Clinical coaches are everywhere in nursing..at my hospital there is one per floor for all the grads, but even if you are not a grad, they are there to help. Its their job...and so you will find that too when you get out there. Dont expect too much from yourself...they wont and cant expect you to know it all..experience is the only cure for that :-)

I am sure you will do really well. You are a mother too and trust me..motherhood prepares you well for nursing. It has prepared me very well..for several reasons.

Good luck when you swicth to on campus again..not that you will need it....I am sure you will do very well and enjoy it.

Hey if you ever want to have a natter feel free to add me to msn - akeesha444@hotmail.com

modified: Monday 12 January 2009 12:54:01 pm - keeshy

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Jan 15, 2009, 10:40 pm

hey keeshy - i sent u an email!

i know what you mean, i absolutely love the a & p side of it (although i can't r'mber most of it!) but it really makes me realise how lucky i am that i chose something that i really love learning about. i had a bit of a LOL when reading about the cukoo cukoo bit!

pardon my ignorance but what is DPU?

thanks for ur words of support keeshy, and i really hope i get an email from you soon re ur offer :)
take care

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Jan 15, 2009, 11:00 pm

Hey :-)

Havent checked my emails yet but I will do so now.....though you know about my offer now anyway :-)

DPU = Day procedure unit. I wanted to give it a go and thought about it for a few weeks and then a shift came up on Tuesday for me. I took it and I liked it. Its alot less clinical than the wards but its a nice change. I mentioned to them that I enjoyed it and then yesterday I got a call from resource saying DPU called and asked specifically for me.....so I got another shift down there today...alot busier...frantic!!!

Its good though for a change of pace. Basically patients come in for surgery, we admit them do all their paperwork, prep them for theatre and take them when they are called, hand them over to the theatre nurse. Then when they come back (some stay o/n and go to a ward but alot come back) we do obs and monitor them for a little while, give them food/drink and some education and then send them home. Its quick and kind of like a revolving door but its goo to get full follow throughs and you learn a bit about the surgeries that they have too.

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Jun 01, 2009, 11:32 am

I know this is an old thread, but if anyone could answer a couple of questions that would be great. Im looking to apply for BN for next year. As i work full time, going external would be perfect for me.

Were there any pre-requisits for studying externally? I know with CSU, you have to have completed the first year on campus.

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Jun 08, 2009, 05:09 pm

Hi , Im interested in CDU for RN externally . The more i can do externally or via distant Education the better with children its hard to study with no incame and pay childcare .How often do you have too attend CDU ? How far into the course do you need to attend your first week ? All i could find was 1 week for each year ? But when in that year ? At the end? At the start ? ARe you able to do the clinical placements in your own state? Does anyone know how hard it is to get into ? Any info would be great ... Thanks

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Jun 09, 2009, 09:22 am

Pricilla, I applied last week for the course without knowing any info! Since then i have done a lot of reading and sent the uni a few emails. Have a look at this page http://www.cdu.edu.au/course-docs/BNurseStudyPlan4ABMay08.pdf It is the suggested timetable for new students who have no other training. The courses with the * next to them are the prac subjects which also require the 5 day clinical school in either Darwin or Alice Springs. The clinical school has to be done on campus, but the hospital pracs are organised at a hospital close to you. Same goes with exams. They have a list of places (TAFE, other uni's) local to you where you can arrange to sit your exams. For the first to pracs, it looks like they are in Semester 2.

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Jun 11, 2009, 01:49 pm

Hi Mopples, Keep me posted on how you go . When do you hear if you get accepted ? I think it sounds like a great way of doing it . I hear the En Tafe courses are really hard to get into . Im not sure if i have the education level to get into a Uni course . I havent studied in 20 years , Maybe they have a prep course ? Any info you could share with me would be great . Thanks

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Jun 12, 2009, 12:57 pm

Main round offers are made on the 9th and further offers on the 15th July, although the SATAC uniweb says the "check and accept offers" tab will be available from 18 June.

CDU do have a uni prep course. Just do a search on their website. Not sure if it is done externally though. Maybe given then a call and check. I found the info about it the other day. Think it is done over 2 semesters.

Got my confirmation for my STAT today. 8.45am on saturday 20th June. Have to drop my hubby at the airport at 6am that morning, so ill just stay in the city and go and study in the park for a while before going to the test venue.

Im currently doing a Diploma which wont be finished until december which is work related. SATAC sent me a letter asking for confirmation of completion asap...it wont be completed until December. Have given a them a run down in my personal statement and provided them with a copy of my statement of attainment/transcript of results with my application so hopefully that is sufficant. Just a shame that the results etc for the second module do not come out for another 2 weeks.

Trust me, if i get in, ill be posting the news on here!

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Jun 23, 2009, 02:35 pm

Hi Mopples , How did your STAT go on Saturday ? When do you find out ? I looked into the prep course for CDU . I sent my forms off yesterday for it . You can do it part time or full time . So ill see how i go with that and then ill try for enrolment in to the course for first or second semester next year . If you can keep my updated on when your placements are and anything else useful . Hope you hear from them soon .

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Jul 02, 2009, 04:03 pm

Sorry i havent checked here for a little while. Test went okay i guess. The score came today and I got 155. The min requirement is 145. So im hoping that this along with my personal statement, work experience etc will be enough to get in.

Find out if i get in next Thursday. Fingers crossed!

Good luck with the prep course :)

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Aug 09, 2009, 10:01 am

HI mopples, pricilla and keeshy etc. Just thought id jump in on this thread. I applied for the mid year intake to CDU and didnt get in . Iwas disappointed and i think SATAC stuffed me around abit as they kept sending me letters for seperate documents instead of one letter for a whole bunch of thigns eg. my transcripts as well as the certificates etc in dribs and drabs and it took ages to keep getting documents verified and sending them to SA from NSW. I am in nsw and i am an en advanced cert done in 92. CDU gives credit but states only cert IV and hospital trained. Idont think i fit either of that criteria? any clues. Also I have an arts degree (UNE) and a grad diploma in primary school teaching from CDU so i will be angling for credit from adult literacies and northern perspectives.
What are the podcasts from lectures, do you actually need to download these or are they optional .can you do it all online via readings and the texts etc. Thats how i did all my other tertiary studies online.
Also with national registratoing next year whats going to happen. I cant get any clear answers from the nurses registration board in NSW. If somebody is half way into studies at a uni interstate I guess a national registration board will be recognising studies nation wide and letting nurses register after the degree. Thanks L

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